Tag Archives: David Price

Just How Much Value Might Julio Teheran Actually Have?

Following the latest bombshell to hit the already thin 2017 MLB free-agent market. maybe it really is time for the Braves to explore just what kind of return they could legitimately expect for Teheran and his VERY team-friendly deal.

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“Topping Off” The System

Now that the rush of the Winter Meetings has passed, we’ll turn our focus to other potential moves that could be forthcoming as “The Johns” continue their quest to transform the organization’s system into the best in the game. The question recently being asked by many in the industry has been “Why not go ‘all the way’ while you’re at it?” In other words, now that you’ve “mailed it in” in 2016 – and potentially 2017 as well – why not go ahead and gut the big club’s roster and add even more prospects to the impressive pile you’ve already built? While it would sting for a little bit, I’ve been in the minority who have thought that should be the goal for some time now. For the record, I’ve been in favor of beginning a rebuild for a few years – while the team was exciting to watch with the Uptons, Jason Heyward, and Evan Gattis in the lineup, I also felt that it just didn’t have that “it” that it was going to take to get over the hump and win another Championship, and the window that it had with those guys was rapidly closing if payroll couldn’t be increased.

There are compelling arguments that can be made for either stance as the answer to that question. It’s completely understandable for younger Braves fans to be impatient – 2015 was the worst season they’d experienced in their lives. That said, the older generation saw much worse in the dark days (the late 70s through the beginning of “The Run” with the exception of Dale Murphy’s  two MVP seasons). That crowd tends to feel that sacrificing a couple seasons is more than OK with them as long as they don’t have to go through that again.

Since I’ve already tipped my hand about my view, I’ll explain the reasoning a bit and take a look at what doing so could mean moving forward…

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HOME RUN!!!

The news about the trade Braves’ Nation has been waiting for since word first began to leak out last winter that the organization was considering a retooling/reloading/rebuilding period began to circulate around 8:15 eastern Tuesday night. Speculation about whether the Braves would trade Shelby Miller has been all over the place for the last 10 days or so, and grew louder and louder once teams began to see what the going rate for higher-end Pitchers was on the free-agent market following the David Price, Zack Greinke, Jordan Zimmerman, and Jeff Samardzija signings.

Ken Rosenthal broke the news that Atlanta had agreed to send Miller to the Arizona Diamondbacks during the MLB Tonight telecast on the MLB Network moments after news that the Cubs had agreed to terms with another of the most sought-after players known to be available in Nashville this week – super-utility whiz and 2015 World Series hero Ben Zobrist – but his sources had not yet confirmed the pieces the Braves would be getting in return. Soon after, analysts and pundits alike were stunned to find out exactly how much some clubs value what I’ve been talking about since the rebuild began – young, high-end, controllable starting pitching.

While one can argue that the deal made sense for an Arizona club that appears to be “all-in” for the next couple of seasons, it’s hard not to look at the return as a HUGE win in the long run for the Braves…

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Would The Braves Trade Them All?

Given the increased interest in Shelby Miller, one tried and true adage rings true yet again – inexpensive, controllable starting pitching remains the most valuable commodity in MLB.  Following the news that David Price signed with the Red Sox, Zack Greinke is likely to decide between the Dodgers and Giants this week, and Johnny Cueto and the Diamondbacks were at least pretty close to a deal, the huge perceived surplus of “available” SPs may well become a huge hole by the time the winter meetings begin this Sunday in Nashville. The speed surrounding this “change in the winds” has been pretty remarkable, even during the MLB hot stove season. Miller has suddenly become the hottest name being discussed in baseball circles tonight, roughly 12 months after many Braves fans screamed about how bad the return for Jason Heyward was when they landed Miller (and Tyrell Jenkins for one year of Heyward’s services when they had almost no hope of keeping their homegrown (and hometown) phenom.

So the question of the night is this – knowing there’s almost zero chance you can put a seriously competitive product on the field in 2016 (and possibly 2017 as well) and you may well be able to plug every current hole in the system you;ve been charged with rebuilding with players who will be ready by late 2017 or early 2018 at the latest, would you be willing to suffer the fans’ wrath if you could trade Miller, Julio Teheran, and Freddie Freeman and do that if you were in John Coppolella’s shoes?

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Everybody Loves A “Blockbuster”

So the Cubs are currently doing background work on a handful of Pitchers to add to their rotation, presumably including Shelby Miller and Julio Teheran. They’ve also been linked to the “Aces” at the top of the market (David Price and Zack Greinke), as well as free-agents on the next tier (Jeff Samardzija and John Lackey) in an effort to build enough pitching depth to get them by the teams in their division and the pitching-rich Mets for the next several years while they have their young offensive stars under control cheaply and trying to finally end the most well-known stretch of futility in professional sports. Theo and Jed don’t strike ANYONE as a front office tandem that will act out of any feeling of desperation now that they’ve overseen Chicago’s return to relevance, but do want to be the ones to finally give Cubs fans at least ONE Championship.

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Organizational Depth Chart – Starting Rotation

As we work our way towards the non-tender date (5 days after the World Series ends), the GM Meetings (November 9th-12th in Boca Raton),  and the Winter Meetings (December 6th-10th at the Gaylord Opryland Resort & Convention Center in Nashville), we’re going to work our way through the organization position-by-position – noting not only the players within the organization and where they rank and their potential, but also potential free-agent or trade options that “The Johns” might consider (from our point of view, of course).

Our first installment will begin with a look at the Braves’ starting Pitchers…

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The Case For Rusney Castillo

Thankfully the team FINALLY gets the medication it needed – cheese steaks and a strong start from one of the kids – and the long losing streak is over. This gives Braves’ Nation a chance to catch its collective breath and back away from the edge – even if only for a day or two. Since we all get a chance to wake up with the sun shining and good thoughts for at least one morning, I thought this might be a good time to kick around another potential offseason fix for John Hart & Company to ponder this winter. Our last look was an approach to “fixing” the OF while adding some offense, and this entry will look to address that situation as well.

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